Saturday, July 28, 2007

AGBell: Feeling Threatened?


Come on out and rise to the challenge! AGBell used the hotel management to remove the demonstration from the hotel premises which led to some ugly confrontations thanks to an unbecoming hotel manager. Management used as a shield.

14 comments:

michele said...

Yes it was clearly discrimination on their part.

We need to know who is in the AGB's organization and who is the president. We should investigate more into this person and expose the organization through media. Media is our friend and why not use media to talk about it.

Anonymous said...

What utter nonsense! You guys are still living in a dream.

I am a veteran of 100s of conferences and even organized a major one a few years ago.

It is a well known fact that exhibit booths are for the BENEFIT of those who paid their registration fees.

So the management were within their rights to eject for lack of a better word those who hadnt paid their dues.

Mr Egbert could have taken advantage of the reducd rate for AGBell members.

I wouldnt dignify these actions as protets -- they were ill-organized and incoherent and consequently showed the bad face of the Deaf community! What a bunch of amateurs -- worse than these incompetent fools who tried to attack the UK airports earlier this month!

ASL Risen said...

Good morning Cy!

Yeah right hoping better day! Good 2 questions! I wonder if AGBell took advantage of hotel manager threaten the DBC? I wonder if AGBell was laughing at the DBC after the hotel manager oppressed and threatened the DBC??

I am sorry that I cannot explain more if I wrote no good enlgish.. I am taking a big break from my video..

Good questions, Cy! Shawn

Edward Nugent said...

Owner of the Hotel should fired Jenny for her horrible behaviour toward deaf.

Jamie said...

There is an alternative to "protesting." Check out what I wrote on Berke Outspoken.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Egbert is ALREADY a member of AGB.

and a few other people that has been thrown out WERE members of AGB.

get your facts straight before you whine saying, I went to 100's of conventions.. blah blah blah.

Cy said...

Anonymous,

The management had the right to ASK demonstrators to leave - indeed - but they had no right to physically grab the flyers and tear them up, and Jenny scratched Brianna as well. Jenny physically grabbed some demonstrators. That is crossing the line.

The police DID come and told Jenny there was nothing they could do - the DBC demonstration was legit.

Jamie,

Please stop with your "alternative to protest" chant. Saw the same message on other blogs. Have you been listening? We had tried to work with AGBell for 127 years to no avail. We tried "alternatives" to no avail. Now we are doing something different. Sometimes the gentle approach does not work - there are situations where we have to do it loudly to get their attention.

Anonymous,

I doubt YOUR facts are straight. I doubt Egbert is an active or recent member. Perhaps he WAS but not current.

Those thrown out were NOT AGBell members. They were from the DBC coaltion who did not have flyers - they merely went in to browse the booths. Drolz wrote about it and he is not an AGBell member. Read about it on Deafread.

mishkazena said...

Cy,

Yes, John Egbert is currently an AGB member and he was also forbidden to enter the booth exhibit area, even though he paid for hotel room.

Cy said...

MIshka Zena

Thanks for the clarification regarding Egbert. I must admit it is disconcerting that he is an AGBell member. Isn't this contradictory? Like he is playing on both sides of the fence?

Anonymous said...

Just because someone is a member of an organization does not allow them to crash a conference. I am a member of NAD. Does that mean I can go to the conference for free? Different organizations handle exhibit booths differently. It is their right to kick out people who did not pay to attend the conference. Egbert did not pay, and either did Drolz. Yes they had cool stuff there. It was for people who paid, not freeloaders. I know deaf have a habit of thinking they should get everything for free, and if they don't, it's oppression or audism. Maybe when you start acting like mature adults AGBell people will listen to what you have to say.

Cy said...

Anonymous,

Paid registrants attended conference for lectures, workships, etc. The booths in the lobby did not cater to only the conference attendees. The lobby booths were for the public to come and browse. The conferences were held in hall rooms off the lobby where you have to display conference badges to enter. The booth did not require badges to broswe. Lobby is always open to the public.

Egbert obviously as a member was within his right to be there but did he pay to attend the conference? That part is not known as of late.

Again, the booths were
"freebie" as you like to put it. Drolz was within his right as an American citizen to enter the lobby to browse the booths. To throw him out based on his waving hands in the air is purely discriminative. It is clear the management was instructed by AGBell to throw out any deaf individuals within the vicinity of their booth area.

Like I said, it is loud and and clear that AGBell feels threatened by the demonstrators, by the ASL users' presence at their conference. That is a good sign to me...hopefully the attendees took note of their reaction to DBC's presence at the conference and pique their curiosity as to why AGBell felt threatened by them.

Jean Boutcher said...

Cy,

John Egbert says somewhere on
DeafDC that he urges deaf
people to join AGB. He feels
that the voice of deaf
people would be heard if
joining.

I disagree. Joining AGB
is not the answer.

The answer is to educate
non-signing parents. Since
many parents will attend
AGB Conference in Wisconsin
next year, I think it is a
good time for DBC people
to go there to distribute
flyers about NIH's findings.

My two cents.

C said...

I'm not quite sure how it is with other organizations and their booths. WE all know at deaf events, booths, if located in the hotel public area, usually open to all (paying or non paying) but it appears that AGB and other hearing organization meant the booths to be for paying conference members. We need to really get to the facts before saying anything further. It's easy to assume things because we know how it is in the deaf community and it could be different in the hearing community.

Milwaukee should be different because it's for FAMILIES vs AVT professionals.

Whatever DBC learns from this, we can be better prepared for Milwaukee.

Jeff said...

Any conclusion on the event?